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Credit: Reuters/Shengfa Lin Related News Microsoft and Google financials could surface at trial Tue, Nov 13 2012 Analysis: Google's Android finally earns respect with developers Mon, Nov 12 2012 HTC shares jump after settles patent issues with Apple Mon, Nov 12 2012 Apple and HTC settle global patent battle Sat, Nov 10 2012 Apple slides to five-month low, uncertainty grows Wed, Nov 7 2012 Analysis & Opinion Review: Why Polaroid faded away AOL: Down so long, itâ€™s starting to look up Related Topics Tech » Media » By Dan Levine and Poornima Gupta SAN FRANCISCO | Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:03pm EST SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - When Apple Inc and HTC Corp last week ended their worldwide legal battles with a 10-year patent licensing agreement, they declined to answer a critical question: whether all of Apple's patents were covered by the deal. It's an enormously important issue for the broader smartphone patent wars. If all the Apple patents are included -including the "user experience" patents that the company has previously insisted it would not license - it could undermine the iPhone makers efforts to permanently ban the sale of products that copy its technology. Samsung Electronics Co Ltd, which could face such a sales ban following a crushing jury verdict against it in August, asked a U.S. judge on Friday to force Apple to turn over a copy of the HTC agreement. In a court filing, Samsung argued it is "almost certain" that the HTC deal covers some of the patents involved in its own litigation with Apple. Representatives for Apple and Samsung could not immediately be reached for comment. Judges are reluctant to block the sale of products if the dispute can be resolved via a licensing agreement. To secure an injunction against Samsung, Apple must show the copying of its technology caused irreparable harm and that money, by itself, is an inadequate remedy. Ron Laurie, managing director of Inflexion Point Strategy and a veteran IP lawyer, said he found it very unlikely that HTC would agree to a settlement that did not include all the patents. HTC declined to comment. If the deal did in fact include everything, Laurie and other legal experts said that would represent a very clear signal that Apple under CEO Tim Cook was taking a much different approach to patent issues than his predecessor, Steve Jobs. Apple first sued HTC in March 2010, and has been litigating for more than two years against handset manufacturers who use Google's Android operating system. Apple co-founder Jobs promised to go "thermonuclear" on Android, and that threat has manifested in Apple's repeated bids for court-imposed bans on the sale of its rivals' phones. Cook, on the other hand, has said he prefers to settle rather than litigate, if the terms are reasonable. But prior to this month, Apple showed little willingness to license its patents to an Android maker. 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