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Edition: U.S. Article Comments (5) Save Email Print Reprints Most Popular Most Shared Google facing many risks in China standoff 04 Feb 2010 UPDATE 1-Taiwan says to buy miltary helicopters from Europe 04 Feb 2010 Gold posts biggest one-day loss since 2008 04 Feb 2010 Factbox: Democrats face battle for Senate majority 04 Feb 2010 China envoy to visit North Korea; U.S. activist released 04 Feb 2010 U.S. investors should be more worldly, says Goldman 04 Feb 2010 Google facing many risks in China standoff 04 Feb 2010 U.S. teens lose interest in blogging: study 04 Feb 2010 Employers likely added 5,000 jobs last month 1:04am EST Human "bed-warmers" at Holiday Inn 21 Jan 2010 Google, NSA to team up in cyberattack probe WASHINGTON Thu Feb 4, 2010 4:55pm EST WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Internet search firm Google is finalizing a deal that would let the National Security Agency help it investigate a corporate espionage attack that may have originated in China, the Washington Post reported on Thursday. Technology | China The aim of the investigation is to better defend Google, the world's largest Internet search company, and its users from future attacks, the Post said, citing anonymous sources with knowledge of the arrangement. The sources said Google's alliance with the NSA -- the intelligence agency is the world's most powerful electronic surveillance organization -- would be aimed at letting them share critical information without violating Google's policies or laws that protect the privacy of online communications. "NSA is not able to comment on specific relationships we may or may not have with U.S. companies," the agency said in a statement. As a general matter, "NSA works with a broad range of commercial partners and research associates" on security solutions for the Defense Department and other customers and on "cutting-edge technologies that will secure the information systems of tomorrow," the statement said. Under the arrangement, the NSA would not be viewing user searches or e-mail accounts, the Washington Post said. Google also would not be sharing proprietary data with the NSA, the newspaper's sources said. Google took the unusual step on January 12 of announcing that it had been hit by sophisticated cyberattacks in mid-December and that it was reviewing its business operations in China. The Silicon Valley-based firm said the cyberattacks targeted Gmail accounts of Chinese human rights activists and an investigation found at least 20 other large companies had been targeted by cyberattacks. China responded several days later with a defense of its state control of the Internet. A top official said online pornography, fraud and rumors were a menace and that Internet media must help "guide public opinion" in China. U.S. Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair said on Tuesday the cyberattacks against Google were a wake-up call. A partnership between the Internet search giant and the NSA touches on the sensitive issue of how to balance individual privacy and national security online. Google approached the NSA in the aftermath of the attacks, but reaching an agreement has taken weeks because of the sensitive nature of information-sharing between the two sides, the Post quoted its sources as saying. The focus of the cooperative venture would not be to determine who was behind the attacks, the newspaper added, citing its sources. That would be nearly impossible. Instead the aim is to build a better defense of Google's networks, or what technicians call "information assurances," the newspaper quoted the sources as saying. (Writing by David Alexander, reporting by Tabassum Zakaria; Editing by Paul Simao) Technology China Comments See All Comments (5) | Post Comment Feb 04, 2010 2:25pm EST This is a dangerous precedent. NSA, CIA, etc are no more trustworthy than the Chinese. Going down this path will have grave implications for internet users, if it hasn’t already. More than likely, this is an announcement of previously secret cooperation. laoma Report As Abusive Feb 04, 2010 5:18pm EST the team up would have happened anyway – as long as NSA does not counter attack as against counter measures. The chinese started this game – so they need to be aware of the consequences. Also this is but a suite of measures the Chinese are using – they are still holding a CEO from RioTinto – effectively kidnapped (and his computer) while on a business trip into China ethicsbysteve Report As Abusive Feb 04, 2010 5:51pm EST I have, back in ‘05 and ‘06, been in touch with FBI Cyber regarding the number of hits (ping) and hack attempts from China which I detected with my over the counter security software. Back in those days I would get a couple of hundred hits weekly, seeking servers or access from the EU, Russia, Korea and Mexico. However, in the same time period I would get as many as a thousand from China. Chinese “HACKER CLUBS” are all over their country, most started at Universities. The PRC is pretty tough on anyone who tries to hack or steal from them, but they don’t care if their people use their computers to collect personal information, small business information and commit corporate espionage anywhere else in the world. They hold a couple of trillion dollars worth of the Feds paper and are most likely providing black ops funds via corporate fronts to Chinese citizens who acquire what may be useful information. ANY KIND OF INFORMATION. They tend to stay away from government and classified sites. They are collecting information on anybody and any small to medium size company they can, hopefully to sell or get some perc, like a new computer or cell phone as payment for their efforts. Phishing scams are mostly for info only purposes and not to go to the extremes of actual identity theft or cleaning out bank accounts. That will come later. There are some really dedicated Chinese citizens who do this on behalf of misguided beliefs in patriotism to the PRC and DO MALICIOUS DAMAGE. FBI and NSA need to put a stop to this. They used to pirate all of our software and the Chinese government didn’t crackdown on that for many years. Not until they obtained the technology they wished to obtain. Now they are collecting personal, small and medium size business information in companies without hi tech IT Security staffs. We need to be allowed to upgrade our common over the counter encryption and build a firewall between the US and China selectively. This will require FBI and NSA coop with the software developers so the software engineers can develop over the counter secuity software available and legal for use which allows the individual and/or business to select which countries they want their traffic read by and which countries are authorized to ping for data or server availability. This would keep conttol in the hands of the people and not the NSA. The NSA should monitor international traffic from point of origin to destination but not read it without Federal Courts authorization. If we can select the regions and/or countries which we as individuals want to access or grant ping authorization to that would solve the problem. It requires higher levels of encryption which the FBI and NSA can crack but not folks on the blocked list. kschltr Report As Abusive Feb 04, 2010 6:02pm EST As the article notes, the NSA already works with a number of major tech giants with regards to security. For instance, the NSA was working closely with Microsoft during the development of Windows 7 and it has been actively playing a part in helping secure Windows for years. Quite frankly, it’s not the NSA that you need to be worrying about when it comes to your Internet security. Instead, you should be worrying about all the malware that you unwittingly install on your machines. Report As Abusive Feb 04, 2010 6:15pm EST The above post reflects my personal opinion and not that of any government or corporate entity. It’s just a matter of adding country/region preference selections and upgrading encryption so that any hack attempts would be detected by the security companies and reported to the appropriate government agencies as privacy violations under civil rights provisions here in the US and the laws pertaining to privacy abroad. Each individual government has their own standards. IF WE SELECT TO BLOCK TRAFFIC BETWEEN OUR PERSONAL OR CORPORATE MACHINES AND ANY OTHER COUNTRY’S WEB AND HACK ATTEMPTS BY INDIVIDUALS, CORPORATE OR GOVERNMENT ENTITIES OCCUR IT SHOULD GENERATE AN ANONYMOUS REPORT TO THE FBI/NSA, or other countries law enforcement and/or intel agencies automatically an anonymously. Only you and your security software provider need to have identifying info unless requested by warrant by federal law enforcement. The same would occur in every country authorizing use of such a system. Democracy In Action. We decide and no one gets to read our traffic without our express permission. It only requires adding an additional preferences menu and a slight upgrade in encryption. kschltr Report As Abusive See All Comments (5) Add a Comment More from Reuters Employers likely added 5,000 jobs last month WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. employers probably stopped cutting jobs and added 5,000 payrolls in January, the second monthly gain since the recession started in December 2007, the government is expected to report on Friday. Brown takes Senate seat; urges tax cuts Google facing many risks in China standoff Dow dips below 10,000 mark on eurozone debt, jobs data Asia shares slide; euro up on Swiss c.bank talk | Video Rio Tinto hires new China boss to improve ties » More Top News BUY OR SELL: Samsung may be losing its shine Shares of Asia's biggest tech firm dipped in recent weeks, leaving investors to wonder if its bullish outlook story is wearing thin. Full Article Samsung's share price Samsung dials up smartphone push ASIAN markets Investors' "huge mistake" China, India and other emerging markets promise the strongest growth, a Goldman analyst says. So why aren't Americans branching out? Full Article Dow dips below 10,000 mark "Corrective phase" not over: BlackRock Markets hammer euro states Global Markets © Copyright 2010 Thomson Reuters Editorial Editions: Africa Arabic Argentina Brazil Canada China France Germany India Italy Japan Latin America Mexico Russia Spain United Kingdom United States Reuters Contact Us Advertise With Us Help Journalism Handbook Archive Site Index Video Index Analyst Research Mobile Newsletters RSS Podcasts Widgets Your View Labs Thomson Reuters Copyright Disclaimer Privacy Professional Products Professional Products Support Financial Products About Thomson Reuters Careers Online Products Acquisitions Monthly Buyouts.com Buyouts Europe: Buyouts Conferences: Venture Capital Journal EVCJ International Financing Review International Securitisation Report Project Finance International PEhub.com PE Week Thomson Reuters is the world's largest international multimedia news agency, providing investing news, world news, business news, technology news, headline news, small business news, news alerts, personal finance, stock market, and mutual funds information available on Reuters.com, video, mobile, and interactive television platforms. 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